UAD-2 and the new (2.66) Nehalem Mac

[samplaire]

Is the title combination a good one? I've been using my UAD-2 Duo in my current system for some 4 months (if I remember correctly) without any problem but the time is to upgrade to an Intel based machine for me. I know there were issues with the older 8 core 3.0 MacPros. Thanks for your input in advance.

[jandron]

This set-up works flawlessly for me.

UAD-2 Duo
2.66 Nehalem Mac
6 gigs RAM
DP 5.13
OSX 10.5.8

This mac is incredibly fast, and I have NO problems with the UAD. Highly recommended!

[samplaire]

Thank you! Bought one

[mixingaudio]

works flawlessly for me no problem at all

[NEWRIGEL]

This hardware is way faster than the old MP! Comparing the 2.66 Quads.
The controller buss has been improved too (PCIe, SATA etc.) so you will get way better performance out of your drives and DSP cards.
I can max out all my PCIe DSP cards at 90-100%... and I couldn't do that with my other MP's (UAD1,UAD2 Duo, and an SSL Duende) and run like 6 stereo instances of Altiverb with approximately 20 other native plugs VI's etc. and it don't even get past the halfway mark with room to breath! I use DP 5.13 which is a bit hard on the DSP with MAS so other DAW's might get even better performance but I have been a DP user since it's inception and I don't want to have to relearn my workflow... DP works really well for me.
I've had a better experience with this MP than my other MP's I've owned! I never have any problems with things not working or getting hung up or anything of that nature! If I do, it's usually a .plist and I trash and get going again... but it's RARE and it's because of something stupid I did.
Nice solid pieces of hardware and well worth every cent I paid for it!

[fermusic]

What about 64 bit mode driver for UAD?

[NEWRIGEL]

What about 64 bit mode driver for UAD?

Unless you need terabytes of ram... why 64 bit when really, unless EVERYTHING is native compiled 64 bit code would you reap any benefits? Good marketing hype but in real world performance... little is gained for audio. Now for scientific the gains are HUGE because they need lightning fast access to terabytes of data @ any given nanosecond for forecast and scenario simulations (global warming, tidal effects on the climate etc.) so that's where 64 bit computing kicks ass! Audio applications don't really benefit or need it. And Kontakt 3.5-4 has the KMS in which you can go over the 4 GB limit so really that's the only thing 64 bit brings to the table... of course, to tell everyone your system is 64 bit. Until EVERYTHING is compiled natively in 64 bit (not bridged or wrapped like the PC's do)... I'll just stay in 32.

[fermusic]

What about 64 bit mode driver for UAD?

Unless you need terabytes of ram... why 64 bit when really, unless EVERYTHING is native compiled 64 bit code would you reap any benefits? Good marketing hype but in real world performance... little is gained for audio. Now for scientific the gains are HUGE because they need lightning fast access to terabytes of data @ any given nanosecond for forecast and scenario simulations (global warming, tidal effects on the climate etc.) so that's where 64 bit computing kicks ass! Audio applications don't really benefit or need it. And Kontakt 3.5-4 has the KMS in which you can go over the 4 GB limit so really that's the only thing 64 bit brings to the table... of course, to tell everyone your system is 64 bit. Until EVERYTHING is compiled natively in 64 bit (not bridged or wrapped like the PC's do)... I'll just stay in 32.

Logic 9.1 is the first native 64bit and 32bit compatible DAW... (performance are impressive in 64bit mode)... the RAM size allocation is not a problem because sampler use streaming direct from disk!
I agree with you I don't understand why Logic does not use external Virtual server RAM... Like as Kontakt 4 for the plugins...
anyway your post do not answer to my simple question

I have a Mac Pro capable to Run Logic 9.1 ... it was released Yesterday it is native 64bit DAW and 32bit plugins are supported too when I start 64bit Native kernel...
the only problem is:
WHY UAD DRIVERS ARE NOT READY???

I have RME AIO HDSP with native support for 64bit mode!!!
I'm wait for 64bit Drivers for MY THOUSANDS DOLLARS UAD PLUGINS!!!

you don't need terabyte of ram to use 64bit advatage!!!
I need that my UAD can be recognized in my system!!!

Thanks

[fermusic]

What about 64 bit mode driver for UAD?

Unless you need terabytes of ram...

For run Logic??? .. I don't think so...I have tried rigth NOW... terabytes of ram??? .... this is absolutely NOT TRUE!!!
the same size of ram is required.. if you use 16bit or 24bit Samples!

[NEWRIGEL]

What about 64 bit mode driver for UAD?

Unless you need terabytes of ram...

For run Logic??? .. I don't think so...I have tried rigth NOW... terabytes of ram??? .... this is absolutely NOT TRUE!!!
the same size of ram is required.. if you use 16bit or 24bit Samples!

No, I meant that OS X in 64 bit will give you access to over the 4 GB limit... this has nothing to do with audio. Your getting audio bit depth confused with machine code compilation.

[trionix]

Dudes,

Do you have a single or double Nehalem running ??
Cheerz...

Djo

[NEWRIGEL]

I use 3 actual quads. And I use ethernet to connect them.

[fermusic]

No, I meant that OS X in 64 bit will give you access to over the 4 GB limit... this has nothing to do with audio. Your getting audio bit depth confused with machine code compilation.

64 bit driver must be done!!
64bit UAD plugin version must be done too

to avoid the obsolete system like as is the DAE TDM in Protools

as you know Protools and Digidesign announced that Logic in 64 bit mode will does not work with Digidesign DSPs DAE.. such as HD DAE TDM system
Digidesign goes to be obsolete because until now was the only system that works as 64 bit!!!

NOW LOGIC 9.1.1 is ready for 64bit... Core audio is ready too and all Native plugins will be very soon

I hope that UAD developers stay tuned to the 64bit support because the DAE TDM digidesign was OBSOLETE and they are going to more and more obsolete way !!!
UAD cannot do the same!!!!
UAD must upgrade the all hardware DSP's to work at 64 bit mode SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!

this is a great opportunity

G

[fermusic]

Dudes,

Do you have a single or double Nehalem running ??
Cheerz...

Djo

the question is not so clear.. I assume that your asking for the followings

Single processor try = Quad cores = 4 + 4 HT cores = 8 cores... this machine (starts from 2.66 Ghz) is much, much much faster than 2008 Mac Pro (Octo core without HT technology)
Dual Processor try (not "double" this is not the correct term in your question)

I suggest to search more info on Yahoo or Google about "processor try technology on the Xeon Nehalem"

So: Dual Processor Try = Octo cores = 8 + 8HT cores = 16 cores (this starts from 2.26 Ghz) this Machine is not much faster the 2008 8 cores because there are no Audio Apps that allow more than 8 cores...
so the 8 HT cores in the Dual Processor Try are never used (until today)
Logic Pro 9.1.1 is the last version... it supports only 8 cores!!! even if you have the 2.26 Nehalem Model

hope this helps

G

[fermusic]

No, I meant that OS X in 64 bit will give you access to over the 4 GB limit... this has nothing to do with audio. Your getting audio bit depth confused with machine code compilation.

No. Im not with you in your statement. THE 64bit has everything to do with Digital Audio!!! Digital Audio is a working progress technology!!!
Speed Real time NATIVE processing - less Latency in Live Mode - and (of course) MORE RAM to over the 4gb limit

64-bit mode is a great advantage for AUDIO Professionals
I'm a Composer... i'm a Director...
I need to use the great advantage related to the most advanced audio DAW and Operating System of the world

Logic 9.1.1 on Snow Leopard are the most advanced Digital Audio Workstation for professionals!!!
everything else is out of date (especially PT HDTDM)
I hope that UAD developers will be able to bridge the gap that comes with the 64bit Snow Leopard Mode!!!

G