losing interest in "vintage" plugins!

[Eddie Macarthur]

hi all. i, like probably all of us here, love mixing with uad plugins. but i haven't been interested in most of the ones they brought out over last couple of years. so i haven't bought any neve stuff (despite ua emails reminding me of it!), or the emt reverb or cooper delay etc... i'm sure they are fantastic but i don't feel the need for them personally.
what i'd like to see is ua making use of their dsp to create new and imaginative stuff that has never existed in hardware, or at least highly detailed and powerful versions of classic types of effect (phasers, vocoders etc) rather than emulations of a particular unit. then combine these classics in new ways , taking advantage of the modern interface that a daw can provide. midi note controlled phase frequency ? (my old roland ph830 phaser could do this with cv to change the pitch of te phase).
other people have asked for synths; that i would like too, but break away from the usual suspects. how about realtime spectrum synthesis? with uad dsp that should be good. how about realtime harmony generation with melodyne-like quality?
i know a lot of people will disagree here and keep asking for a recreation of a particular item (for me it would be the roland ph-830 studio phaser as mentioned above!).
but i just want ua to make some stuff that will get me spending!
i've got plenty of comressors and eqs from lots of manufacturers. i'm saying; ua keep doing what you do but broaden the scope.
i havent bought any uad2s yet, but would if i felt the plugins were that much of leap forward.
ed

[cheerful hamster]

Vintage is UA's niche, and with all the licensing it seems like they're not going to deviate from that any time soon. So for ear-catching time, pitch and phase FX, I can't imagine they would strike out on their own. On that score, an Eventide collaboration seems like a natural for them, as has been requested many times here. Lexicon and the Dunlop stuff should be nice, but of course these will be emulations of essentially classic old sounds.

Synth and FX design are highly specialized fields, it's not usually something you can just jump into and compete with the big boys. Perhaps they might lure some established designers over, but the capabilities of the UAD-2 are an open question - the synth that they chose to mention at the UAD-2 launch was NI's Elektrik Piano. That's a rompler that doesn't exactly tax any modern DAW's brain, and obviously any sample-based instruments are going to have to rely on your DAW's RAM so if there's a point to running them on the UAD-2, it escapes me.

[Eddie Macarthur]

good points. i've seen people here asking for jupiter 8, moog etc. all of these have been done already (and the reviews, in sound on sound magazine by people who own the original synths, say they are very good).
so the dsp would be better used doing what i suggested; complex realtime spectrum synthesis, resynthesis, vocal format stuff etc. push the limits...
but as you say that expertise doesn't appear out of nowhere. maybe if they did a tie in with n.i or virsyn etc.
i can but try!
ed

[munchkin]

How about a Roland 303 emulation? That's proper vintage and would really interest a lot of dance music enthusiasts. I'd like to see a Sherman filter as well. I agree that UA could really push the boundaries and come up with some unique FX rather than the endless EQ's and compressors. The latest plugins all seem to need a UAD-2 card so that leaves many of us UAD-1 users out in the cold.